GL: Destini For the Win (again): Interview with Crystal Chappell

Thursday, 7th May, bldy_destini did a Big Purple Podcast interview with Crystal Chappell (Olivia).

I have to say I laughed and I cried, and I laughed some more. Destini, you have done such an amazing job representing the Big Purple Dreams community. You asked so many wonderful, insightful questions, mixed with humour and seriousness. It was an absolute joy to listen to. Thank you so much, from the bottom of my heart.

I’d like to also thank Crystal Chappell, the Goddess herself, Guiding Light, Proctor & Gamble and TeleNext for making this happen.

And Desti, you and Crystal were SO flirting. 🙂

And if you missed it last week, Destini did an interview with Dimples the Freakin’ Superhero, Jessica Leccia (Natalia). There were so many cute quotes that came out of that interview.

Some of my favourites:
– “Was that in any way suggestive to you?” – re: peanut butter scene (it’s about 1:20 in, but watch the whole clip).

– “Was that vague enough for you?” (re: mentioning upcoming events)

– “Because hats are the best disguise, ever.”

And once I’ve listened to Crystal’s podcast some more, I’ll be more coherent to put together a few memorable quotes from that. 🙂

And how wonderful it was to see 620+ active members on the Big Purple Dreams board leading up to and during the interview being posted. I haven’t seen that many people on the board at one time outside of the usual Monday-Friday morning live Play-by-Play’s of the episodes. That’s rather spectacular.

After you listen to the podcast interviews, post a comment in the podbean comments section. You can stream the podcasts, or you can also subscribe to them with iTunes (there’s a subscription section on the right-hand side of the Big Purple Podcast podbean site (linked to in above). TeleNext and Proctor & Gamble are watching the numbers and comments that are being posted there.

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GL – New Video – Keep The Light Shining

Otaliafan has done a tribute vid for Guiding Light, which is really well done and shows all kinds of fans of the show from all over the world.

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Guiding Light – The Little Light That Could

I wrote this article last week and posted it to the Big Purple Dreams fan forum, but I thought I should get round to posting it here as well. If anyone wants to link to it, go right ahead – just let me know where it’s being linked to. Also, I mention in the article the number of members on the BPD. Since writing this a week ago, the number of members has increased to 3592.
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The Little Light That Could
J. Lynn Stapleton

For fans of Guiding Light, April 1st, 2009 couldn’t have come at worse time as the CBS network cancelled the 72- year old serial drama. Worse time because the show has been hitting its stride for months now with compelling storylines all around. The show, which had originally started off as a 15-minute radio broadcast on NBC radio in 1937, changed formats as it moved on to CBS television in January 1952, where it will remain until it’s last CBS airdate on September 18, 2009.

More than a year ago, in an effort to reduce the budget costs for the serial, the production team went with a new production model, which involved a hand-held camera system, rather than the traditional three-camera format for other daytime serials. They reduced the number of lavish sets and began filming more outdoor footage. It was a bold move, and one that took some getting used to for the actors, crew and the audience. Ultimately, it was a move that is paying off tremendously, with a more intimate feel to the show.

CBS’s reasoning behind the cancellation is the continued low ratings. Though CBS airs Guiding Light, the show is actually a production of Telenext Media, the media arm of Proctor and Gamble. Guiding Light, as with all television falls under the purview of an antiquated Nielson Ratings system, a limited audience measurement system, which involves self-monitoring of who’s watching what and when. And though Neilson has begun to pick up digital recording of programs as part of its ratings scheme, such as that of TiVo, it only recognizes and counts the viewing in a 24hour period after the televised airing. To make a comparison, based on the Nielson ratings, Guiding Light has been averaging 1.6-1.7 per 114,500,000 households, whereas the top rated daytime serial, Young & Restless garners a 3.8 rating.

What CBS has seemingly failed to recognize is that the current system fails to register other forms of new media and international viewing audiences. It is because of this that a large portion of the fan base of Guiding Light is being under-represented and not counted. Speaking as a Canadian viewer of Guiding Light, our viewing either via CBS feeds from the United States, or via some Global television markets here in Canada, does not count towards the viewer ship numbers.

However, despite all this, an increasingly growing community has developed online. It is called the Big Purple Dreams, the Otalia fan forum, which evolved from a growing desire to discuss a particular aspect of the show and which focused on a relationship between Olivia Spencer (portrayed by Crystal Chappell) and Natalia Rivera (Jessica Leccia). The Big Purple Dreams fan forum was borne of an idea by April Grant (who goes by the online name, Destini) along with some other supportive fans, to find a place to discuss the growing relationship onscreen. The board, which had opened in January 11, 2009, had a few members, as well as a channel on YouTube for video clips for people to watch and share. After an initial promotion on the AfterEllen.com in January, following a particular aspect of the relationship, membership on the board began to increase. Roger Newcomb, editor of the We Love Soaps blog reported that the fan forum had as of April 21st, reached 3000 members. On Michael Fairman’s blog, ‘On Air On Soaps’, April Grant spoke about the increase in the forum membership, “To put it in perspective, we had only 1900 members on the day Guiding Light was cancelled. We have added an astounding 1100 members in three weeks. I am more moved than I can tell you and actually had tears in my eyes as I approved the 3000th member.”

People from all over the United Kingdom, Europe, Asia, Australia, South America, Canada, as well as across the United States have banded together over this show and this Otalia pairing. It is hopeful amongst the members of the fan forum that this international audience will be beneficial to Telenext and Proctor and Gamble in its bid to find a new home for this long-running drama.

Once the initial shock of the cancellation news from CBS had worn down, members of the Big Purple Dreams fan forum gathered their efforts to collect resources and contacts at Telenext, Proctor and Gamble, as well as the executives at Guiding Light. A ‘Save Guiding Light campaign’ was established. Support was being sent out left, right and centre as the campaign got underway. An online petition was started to save the show, and the signatures currently number over 13,000. There have been large writing efforts being made in the form of short letters and postcards to Telenext, Proctor and Gamble, Guiding Light executives, and potential homes for the show.

There’s a domestic part of the campaign focused on the part of US viewers, and a second segment focused from an international perspective to let Telenext/Proctor and Gamble know that they support the show and the efforts to both find a home for the show, and to make them aware there is a market for the international audience. To borrow an apt phrase from the film, A Field of Dreams, “If you build it, they will come.” There is an audience already out there that will readily support the show, if it moves to a cable network, DirecTV, or some other format, such as online media. There is some precedence. When NBC cancelled one of their serial dramas, Passions, in 2007, it briefly went to an exclusive DirecTV channel for a year, before being ultimately cancelled in August of 2008. With the ever increasing number of cable channels springing up worldwide in the past few years, there is much more hope now than there was if this cancellation had happened several years ago.

Why would fans come out to support this show in such an overwhelmingly positive fashion? There are a few reasons.

Back in January 2008, a storyline on Guiding Light was developed and has been playing out organically onscreen. Ellen Wheeler, the show’s Executive Producer and Jill Lorie Hurst, the Head-Writer for this storyline met with the actresses involved and they began to capitalize on the actresses on-screen chemistry to build a relationship between the two women. A relationship that was initially borne of a dislike/distrust and has grown into friendship, family and love. Like any daytime television serial, there have been struggles along the way for the characters, which have paved the way for one of the best super-couples to emerge. That Ellen Wheeler and Guiding Light have managed to create a wonderful love story between two women, and have done so without labelling it as a ‘lesbian’ storyline speaks to the true nature of love. The development of the storyline has been slowly built, without the necessity of labels to allow the audience to become invested in the characters and their growth through friendship and into a loving relationship. Because the producers and writers have refused to put labels on the storyline, it has not been salaciously over-publicized in the general media, such as what happened with All My Children’s Bianca storylines – her initial coming-out story years ago, to the most recent debacle of the first (North American) televised lesbian wedding in a serialised drama, which received a lot of publicity from media outlets.

The Guiding Light characters, Olivia Spencer and Natalia Rivera had become friends, and due to circumstances of Olivia’s health and Natalia’s finances initially moved in together. Olivia needed someone to look after her health post cardiac surgery and to care for her eight-year old daughter, and Natalia needed help financially to afford her new house. The two women complement each other; while Olivia is more fiery tempered, Natalia is more relaxed, and nurturing. The storyline has been so careful to show the small family moments, the folding of laundry, helping Olivia’s daughter with homework, preparing for their workday, that it was so gradual and unexpected they had somewhere along the way, fallen in love with each other. It wasn’t until Emma, Olivia’s daughter, had to do a school project and presentation on her family, that it moved the relationship further. As told through a young child’s eyes on how she viewed her home situation, the audience got to see Olivia and Natalia’s relationship as it was, as something completely normal that made her (Emma) a happy child. Though Olivia and Natalia hadn’t perceived it as such at the time, Olivia started on path of examining her feelings for Natalia. She’d brought it up to Natalia about how others perceived them, including giving Natalia a surprise kiss to prove a point. It’s taken months, but they’ve finally gotten to the point where they’ve admitted they’re in love with each other – to each other, though not without a lot of angst.

This storyline touches on family, relationships, and religion, and has done so with honesty, integrity and true commitment from all involved. Because of this, many of the board’s members identify with many aspects of the storyline. The fan forum members cross the spectrum of all ages, ethnic, religious, sexual orientations, gender. Each person has their own reasons for loving both the storyline and the overall show. For some, it’s a generational experience, as they had grown up watching the show with a parent and/or grandparent, while others are new viewers to Guiding Light. Many, like myself, were brought into the show because of the Otalia storyline, but then became interested in the show as a whole entity.

As a tribute to the show, and a fun way to address the cancellation of the show, one of the Big Purple Dreams members, cajun, created a fan video: Guiding Light – Only Love.

There are many things the fans are doing for the ‘Save Guiding Light Campaign’. The Big Purple Dreams forum’s thread

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Bendix, Trish, (January 23, 2009), Best Lesbian Week Ever
Fairman, Michael, (April 21, 2009), “Power to the Purple People – fan board hits milestone!”. On Air On Soaps.
Guiding Light Petition (13,000 + signiatures) – Guiding Light Petition
Newcomb, Roger, (April 21st, 2009). “Another Big Purple Milestone”, We Love Soaps, –

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GL – Linkages of a Year in a Relationship

To folks on my flist who are new to Otalia (Guiding Light‘s story of Olivia Spencer & Natalia Rivera), here’s a recap, along with some links to some of my favourite clips.

Brief sum-up: Olivia’s got a bad heart. Is on the way towards dying (except how the heck she manages to look that good when she’s sick is beyond me…other than the fact that Crystal Chappell is a Goddess). In her typical state of affairs, the latter being what’s she’s known for, she latches on to Gus Aitoro [son of Alan Spaulding]. Gus is just getting back with his childhood sweetheart, Natalia Rivera; marries her even. Olivia still wants Gus. Natalia knows Gus is conflicted. In typical soap plausibility, when Gus was on his way to the hospital to see Olivia he was in an accident and subsequently died. Olivia got his heart.

I was going to compile a list of YouTube videoclips, but just as I was planning to do that, I saw a post on my flist that so aptly did the same. anomalys wrote up this brilliant piece which gives the linear progression of of Olivia & Natalia’s relationship: Otalia: A Year in the Making, with links and brief descriptions of the episode clips.

As much as the April 13-17th episodes had me in a state of semi-permanent heart-ache, torment, angst-ridden to to the point of feeling like my heart was ripped out, stepped on, fed through a meat grinder and handed back to me on a platter with the declarations of love, this week’s episodes (April 22-24) have been most definitely felt more light hearted and by Friday’s, positively giddy. Hell, they’re only hand-holding and it’s got my heart thumping in a positively gleeful way.


Thanks ces1982 for the banner

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Guiding Light – Olivia's Heartbreaking Confession

I’ve been holding back writing on last week’s Guiding Light episodes because it’s taken me this long to process them. Five full days of Olivia and Natalia pouring their hearts out. Heartbreaking, emotional, intense. A rollercoaster ride and it felt like I had my heart ripped out, stomped on, fed through a shredder and handed back to me in pieces and I loved it all the same. Gah!

The coherence required to comment on such a week is intense. And basically what happened last week took place on ‘one day’. But what particularly broke me was Tuesday’s episode. And if Crystal Chappell does not get an Emmy for that, something is wrong with the universe.

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As an aside, Vienna Teng’s newest CD and her concert dvd arrived in my mailbox the other day. I’ve now got the CD loaded into iTunes. Just have to transfer it to iPod.

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Guiding Light: Michael Fairman Interviews Crystal Chappell & Jessica Leccia

Michael Fairman’s soap blog he interviews Crystal Chappell (Olivia) & Jessica Leccia (Natalia) for TheAdvocate.com , Jeff Branson (Shayne), and Beth Chamberlain (Beth). Go. Watch. Leave comments.

I heart you, Michael. For more of the interviews go to: Michael’s Soap Blog. Run, dont walk, over there for not only the 4-part interview with them, but also for the Outtakes. But stay back from your keyboard/ monitor if you’re eating/drinking. Trust me. It’s ROTFLMAO time. They kill me. Dead, I tell you. The chemistry between these women – daaaaammmnnn. Thud.

Register on his blog. Leave comments.

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Keeping the Light On

Here’s a lovely vid by Cajun (from the BPD board) to keep Guiding Light on the airwaves.

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GL: Words cannot express…

Words cannot express what I’m feeling right now.
CBS has officially cancelled Guiding Light. Not an April Fool’s Joke. It feels like a giant kick in the chest, one that pole-axes you into not being able to breathe.

New York Post: Guiding Light Cancelled
We Love Soaps Blog: CBS’s “GUIDING LIGHT” To Broadcast Its Final Episode On Friday, Sept. 18
72 Year Institution GUIDING LIGHT Cancelled by CBS
Alternative Approaches to Keep GL On The Air

Also, go over to the Big Purple Dreams fan-forum and find other ways to help.

Yes, it is a television show. But one that has been breaking down barriers and creating wonderful stories. More coherent thoughts later…maybe.

I was thinking, just as GL moved from Radio to Television many years ago as it searched out new mediums, now is the time to move towards a new medium: cable, DirecTV, web-based programming. There is an audience and we will marshall ahead.

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GL: Otalia & Personal Introspection

Up until now, pretty much anything I’ve posted with regards to Guiding Light has been pretty superficial, and more light-hearted. The fact that the story is being portrayed by two beautiful, and very talented women (Crystal Chappell & Jessica Leccia) is a bonus.

Until now. I’ve started and stopped writing this post a few times now, because it’s something that’s become a whole lot more personal. Never before has a storyline on ANY television show or film had so much that I’ve identified with on such a personal level. I joined the Big Purple Dreams fan forum back the early part of February. It’s been such an amazing board with such a wide diversity of backgrounds yet overall focused on the same goal: to see the relationship of Olivia Spencer and Natalia Rivera come to fruition. It’s been a long time coming.

For those who have never watched a soap opera, or this one in particular, this storyline is groundbreaking on many levels.

  • The Writing & Production. More than a year ago now, in order to save the series with cost-reduction, CBS and Guiding Light went with a new production model, which saw them shooting more with handcams and more on-location shots, filming in Peapack, New Jersey. While it took some time to adapt and adjust to the new model, the filming is tighter and more intimate in its style and direction. The writing for the series is much more character-driven than plot driven, such as seen in much of the genre.
  • Length of time building up the relationship. Ladies and gents, this storyline has been in the works for more than a year now. The actresses were brought the idea by Ellen Wheeler (Executive Producer) and Jill Lorie Hurst (Head Writer) back in January 2008. That the powers that be saw the chemistry between the two actresses and have capitalized on it, is both brilliant and something many people had hoped for but never thought would have happened. Since that time, the story built on a very grudging acknowledgement of an acquaintanceship, to a friendship, and now to something more.
  • A story told without labels. Unlike many stories in the past on various shows, including All My Children’s Bianca, Guiding Light has developed this storyline without the labels of ‘gay, lesbian, bisexual.’ It’s been a gradual love story built between two people, who both happen to be women. And unlike AMC’s heavy media promotion of their lesbian storylines for Bianca, whether it be with Lena, Maggie or Reece, GL has until recently avoided that promotion and labelling because it takes away from the telling of the story. I’ve watched AMC in the past over the years and have seen the treatment of Bianca, which overall hasn’t been very positive. GL’s treatment of Olivia and Natalia has been overwhelmingly positive, and while angst-worthy at times, has been brilliantly written and performed. This is a story of two women, for whom their past has been relationships with men – for Olivia, several men; for Natalia, basically one man for whom she loved most of her life – and now they’ve found themselves to be attracted to each other, and not sure how to proceed. Fear of the unknown, and uncertainty in the defining of themselves. To briefly go off-topic, I’m reminded of the scene in the NBC television series, ER, wherein Kerry Weaver asks Abby Lockhart who she’ll be once she has her hip replacement surgery. She’d lived her whole life up until then as someone who’s lived with a physical disability [congenital hip displasia], that it’s been a part of her identity. Without that being part of her upcoming daily life, she questions who she’ll be, what it will mean for her. Now, to return to Guiding Light, both Natalia and Olivia are facing identity defining moments. Does this mean they’re just attracted to each other, or women in general, and how do their pasts reconcile with their present circumstances, and how will it affect their family.
  • Honesty & Integrity. This is a big one for me. And part of why I’ve become such invested in both the storyline and the series as a whole. The story of Olivia and Natalia is rich with nuance and believability because there are a lot of people, like myself, who identify with aspects of the characters and the overall story. We’ve been there (or are presently there) at various stages of this story. In many ways, it’s been overwhelming at times.

    And herein is where I delve into why it’s been personally overwhelming.

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    Otalia: Oh My Goddess

    There are no words but…

    THUD

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    Have dental appt at 8:30am. Show airs at 10am. PVR set to record.
    Heart pounding in chest.

    And today’s epi. The angst. About killing me.

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